Vallalperuman should not be compared with anyone since HE is the one who demonstrated that deathlessness can be attained in this very birth and that to without leaving the physical body. For our Vallalperuman, compassion is the most important guiding principle. HE clearly pointed out those who have the wish to eat meat/nonvegetarian stuff, do not call him a Gnani. Those who have been compared with our peruman above, in principle might have said something about this but in their life we can see many instances to the contrary. So do not compare our Vallalperuman with anybody since HE is beyond comparison. Just see the world where maximum number of violence, killing, bombing take place, and if compassion is practiced as preached by religious heads, why these kind of violence take place in specific countries.

Dear Devotees, please read the last phrase under Prophet Mohamed as, "... but also by sacrificing (not as scarifying) everything he had with him, including His fellow human beings for Allah. This kind of typo commonly occurs as we use iPad for typing fast due to our busy routines/schedules.

Note: No doubt, Lord Buddha, Jesus Christ and Prophet Mohamed had also performed some Sithies due to the purity of their Spirit or the Sithies of their Jeeva Ozukkam many a times. Nevertheless, I am also able to see their predominant differences as described above as per their life, practice and teachings!

Let All Living beings live blissfully! Anban, Durai

Vannakam, Vallalperumanar has clearly written not to follow who did not attain deathless state. First there is no necessity to compare Jesus, Mohammed and Bhuddha. All showed the path of love since their time and people they were dealing with were different. My kind advice is to follow whom you want to follow, the truth is Aarutperum Jothi Aandavar. Rather wasting time in comparing pick your choice and follow thats the best always. When we start comparing he is best he is not in any state then the real problem comes. Vallalperumanar has clearly said " No Caste, No Religion and All Living to be seen as ONE". My humble request please donot post similar postings in VallalarSpace or any other Spritual Site for comparission.
Anbudan
Sivakumar mj.

Dear Mr. Baskar, Yes! I have greatly got your intense feel very well. Thank you very much. In his many spiritual speeches, Pasumpon Devar has also revealed the same thought of what you have earnestly expressed here; that is to say, ‘not to compare Vallalar with anyone else, even with the lord shiva’. Since, Almighty Sivam is indeed different from the religious deity ‘lord shiva’, the god shown as a human shaped image with vehicle and weapons, along with his family members, kith and kin. Well. Unfortunately, Indian folks don’t know this spiritual fact, even very many Sanmaargies as well! That is why, I thought of confiscating some of our customary confusion with my above posting. However, it is also viewed as a comparison here. Well. All is well.

Actually, I did not compare Vallalar with anyone in my posting. But, you see HIM as if compared. Well. According to Vallalar, “The Ultimate Sithi is Anma Anubam/Soul Experience, and there is nothing beyond, since our Anma Itself is Divine, The Almighty Sivam/God.” So, Valalar stands all alone by Himself incomparable or unparalleled in my postings! Please read in between lines. All other Anubavams/Experiences need to evolve until the ultimate attainment of Anma Anubhavam. Hope it is clear now.

Of course, you are right many do fight unnecessarily in the name of their religions. No doubt, it is their ignorant and rude god’s business. However, it is not bad to know and appreciate their goodness as a measure for a permanent peace and harmony among our fellow human beings. As per Vallalar, all who have greater love and compassion are Sanmaargies only, regardless of their religions. Well. Let them do badly, yet we cannot hate them. We do actually grow stronger when we are able to love others unconditionally, even though they may meanly hate us, without knowing the truth. Let us pray for them as always.

To some extent only, the purpose of my above posting has been rewarded by your open spot light on truth by His Grace! Anyhow, I have got a pitch from you to go over this posting once again, but in a different way, addressing many of our mystification and accidental confusion of comparison concept/thought as His Grace permits me for it.

Thanks again, All Possible, Exalt Him Only!
Arut Perum Jyothi…Compassionately, Anban Durai

Dear Mr.Durai,
I welcome your inner thoughts/experience/sathvisaram. You have nicely described what the spiritual masters taught to the souls in human body some thousand years ago.
Firstly we should think why these masters came to earth specifically between 3000 years in the millions of years that too at different places.
On my little understanding, these masters have never formed the religions. They were born and tried to achieve oneness with god with their unique own practices. Those 3 were succeeded on their practices because of their greater efforts against "Maya Powers". So they thought to taught their practices to others (to all human beings) to succeed like them. I believe that after the master’s disappearance, those practices were emerged as ‘Religions’. So people in different groups were started to spread their religion across the world. So these fellows were blindly followed the practices to make oneness with god. They don’t have sufficient knowledge to ask questions like ‘what is god, what is nature and what is it’s character’, what are soul and what the body is. So till the Vallalar’s birth no one has opened the lock.
All people cannot simply follow the 4 main principles described in “Jeevakarunya Ozhukkam”. Firstly, are we completely following four main principles/disciplines in our life?. I hope no ‘Yes’ will come from us. If anybody their to say Yes, then are you really following/atleast trying Jeeva Ozhukkam and Aanma Ozhukkam ? To attain those, the nature of god must give his grace/permission to follow / succeed 3rd and 4th disciplines.
All (mostly) are thinking them as a human being. Definately it is wrong. We are just a soul (may be atom size) living in human body for some about 70 years. After our death we may have to take different kind of other living bodies according to our Karma’s.
Coming to topic, Here everything is time. Time plays the role. Can you imagine, What would be our path if we were born before 19th century (before Sutha Sanmargam). We might have followed any religions principles to our spiritual path. Souls are like goats, it will just follow what the front one is. We must be proud to have our birth now to follow unimaginable path “Sutha Samarasa Sathiya Sanmargam”.
For example, 4 persons using different mobile phones say Apple, Nokia, Karbonn and Micromax. They know only about their own phone specifications & features and not the other ones. The person having Nokia mobile saying ‘Nokia is best, please buy and use it’. Likewise person using Karbonn and Micromax also saying that. If they want to know which is best they must compare the features of all 4 to get for a conclusion. For buying a simple mobile/other electronics for short-term use, people are making a huge comparison on features and price, But for Soul experience why people are not spending their time to find which is Sathiya Margam (real spiritual path). They are simply following what has been insisted by their parents/ancestors without knowing the 'real goal of Soul'.
Regarding the emergence of religions, It is called ‘Parinaama Valarchchi’. We could not ask why Sutha Sanmargam shouldn’t have been emerged some 2000 years ago. It is like why the Laptop shouldn’t have been invented first before emergence of Room size computer with very little functions. Yes, It is “System of Nature”.
Conclution: If we say religious gods are Room size computer with little functions, Then I could say Arutperunjothi andavar is a Laptop with i7 core processor. It is a development/growing process, no ending to the limitless grace.
If Vallalar shown the laptop with i7 processor, then we people must develop more than that (to find real nature of god). Because the Nature of God is i∞ (infinity) Processor. The time of Vallalar is different and now the time we are living is different. So do good Sathvisaram to attain the deathless life.

If you accept Nature is a real god. Then I want to convey you a video link showing how the nature is Contructed/Designed by the nature of god. He is the real hero of Universe with his extreme Intelligence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8ivF5GqzKo

Dear Friend Mr. Karthick, Best Greetings! Even though, I do sincerely appreciate your great news and views, I am bound here to focus His Grace Light for your few trivial deviations. Well.

1. Nature is Full of Grace only. Since, it is nothing but the manifestation of Almighty Grace. Nature/the physical world around us disappears naturally when we are able to see only the Grace in nature. This scientific truth is also clearly explained by the Tamil St.Thirumoolar as, “Marathai maraithathu Maamatha Yaanai…. Parathil Marainthathu Par Muthal Pootham” And, which means that it is not the nature’s permission for us to succeed Jeeva and Anma Ozhulukkams, but we by ourselves only. Yes! We only need to develop our own inner limitless selfless compassion to draw the limitless grace energy readily available for us at all times to achieve the deathlessness or Mutheyha Sithies, which are gracefully designed for all human souls. This great discovery of Vallalar is openly explained in Arutpa, Jeevakaarunya Ozhukkam and in His Final Great Sermon (Payrupatheysam).

2. Spiritual experiences need to be compared very carefully. If not, such a comparison will wrong as if we end up with a monkey when we look for a parrot. Computers or laptops are manmade, the secondary creations of our human brain, which is not yet fully used. A few percent or a fraction of our brain power only used so far! On the other hand, brain and Soul are the direct creations of Almighty Grace/Nature made. Vallalar’s soul experience is an ultimate one only or 100% only or infinity only, because it is a nature experience, not a created one to develop it further. So, we have nothing to develop more than what Vallalar has shown for us. Let us first try to attain what Vallalar did and showed for us by His Grace. Then only, we will understand what truly an infinity means. Infinity is not only 10000….unlimited zeros Or represented as ∞ in math, but also a relative concept. How? If X can see an object at 1 Km away, and Y cannot see it, then for Y, that object is at infinity only! This fact is a nature truth only. All other thoughts or considerations are our mind charming or imaginary only! We always tend to say in a style as infinity, when we are not able to see something as it is. You will understand this nature truth as you attain your ultimate Anma Anubava Sithies, just like our Vallarperuman.

3. First, a room size computer became a desktop on a table, next on our lap/leg as a laptop, then as iPad on our hand, and then as an iPhone on our palm, and finally it is going to be in our eye lens soon. Yes. That time, our brain/thoughts will directly operate the oPad or ePad or oTop or eTop (Optic or Eye lens computer, not yet named, but sure to come soon) and understands the oPad/eTop functions.

4. Surely, oPad/ePad invention will help humans understand a little bit of our soul experience. At last, humanity will indeed understand that all these pads or web links are unnecessary as it could begin to experience its own ANMA/SOUL as it is. Until then, these pads and web links are good only to get to know.

Thank you, and have a blessed Day! Anbudan, Anban Durai
Arut Perum Jyothi...

Dear Mr. Durai, Thanks for your response. I have seen your several postings. It is very nice and your postings (hopefully it will depict your thoughts/experience) are mostly related with scientific inquiry/sathvisaram. Even though, I don’t have any rights/capacity to say about your spiritual potential but I can able to see that you are ready to ON BOARD to your final destination/aanma anubavam.

1. I said as Nature of God (hereafter, NOG) / Arutperunjothi Andavar in my posting. Offcourse, this was said by Mr.Vallalar on his Urainadai (“Thiruvarun Meimmozhi”).

‘ஜீவ ஒழுக்கம், ஆன்ம ஒழுக்கம் என்னும் இரு வகையான அரிய ஒழுக்கங்களை திருவருட்டுணை பெற்ற பின்னரன்றிக் கைகூடா’.

But at the same time, I cordially accept the message after the lines ‘but we by ourselves only’. Yes, it is an open source, we must equip ourselves to attain the deathless body to live in endlessly.

2. Yes, I accept first we have to try to attain what Mr. Vallalar has attained. I said laptops for example only for our easy understanding. The X/Y concept will suit better for other kind of things/examples. But on the case of experiencing/knowing the true nature/character of Almighty, this example will hide our soul to understand further about the real power of NOG.
I can accept your points on infinity. One’s inability/incapability makes him to say/see as ∞. But the real infinity is the NOG/Space/Vettaveli in this universe. No one can able to say the limit for that even a Gnani. Rather they can say what they have seen/experienced. It is the limit/capacity of that soul. On Mr. Vallalar’s soul experience, seeing ‘Religious deity Lord Siva’ may be easy (as 1km away), but for us it is difficult. Till that it is called Siva Nilai. After that Sutha Siva Nilai starts with no end like Vettaveli.
I accept Vallalar’s soul experience is an ultimate one but I didn’t mean this to develop further. I meant us to find the real nature/character/power of God. I’m interested to know what Mr. Vallalar was actually attained/completed on the four purushartham’s below and also interested to know that three kinds of bodies will come under which category below
ஏமசித்தி, சாகாக்கல்வி, தத்துவ நிக்கிரகம் செய்தல், கடவுள் நிலையறிந்து அம்மயமாதல்.
I accept the Brain/Human body was designed/created/activated by NOG.
But is it really Almighty created You/me/us/Soul?

3. Ok, Accepted.

4. Ok, Accepted.

Your presence of mind in latest technologies are good. You are more than up-to-date.

Hope so I’m not boring you. Thank you

"கற்றது கைமண்ணளவு, கல்லாதது உலகளவு" என்பது அறியாமையின் கூற்று. கற்றது அணுஅளவும் இல்லை, கல்லாதது எல்லையற்ற பிரபஞ்சத்தின் அளவு" என்பது அறிவுடைமையின் கூற்று.

Dear Brother, What a gifted soul you are really dear! Yes, it has already hinted me well as I went through your earlier comment itself. However, we wanted to get it cleared only by you for all, in case of any ambiguity arisen in any of a reader's mind. But, you did it very well.Thank you.Truly, you haven't made me feel boredom, but get wisdom by your brilliant clarification. With the great souls like you, I always find that my inner energy gets immensely increased.

One more thing! We use the title 'Thiru' before a name as in Thiru.C.Ramalingam Pillai, but never before a honorable title, such as Vallalar or His Holiness or Adigalar or Arut Prakasa or even before Dr. Of course, some addressed innocently as Thiru.Arut Prakasa Valllar; but I have never even seen anywhere as Mr.Vallalar. You are the first one to address Vallalar like this, and that shows your real individual difference, which I really respect it.

In English, the title, 'Master', became as Mr (Mister) as a mark of 'RESPECT. It has no other higher order meaning as per my understanding.

On the other hand, in Tamil, one word can win or make something none in accordance with its usage. The word, 'Thiru"refers to both a mark of respect and 'Holy" as well. Vallalar itself is a higher order title than Mr, and hence I would suggest that Mr is not required before Vallalar. Hope you may not consider this suggestion as inappropriate .

And, ஜீவ ஒழுக்கம், ஆன்ம ஒழுக்கம் என்னும் இரு வகையான அரிய ஒழுக்கங்களை திருவருட்டுணை பெற்ற பின்னரன்றிக் கைடா’. Yes. You are absolutely right.This is purely a greater Graceful guideline only in order to help us stay firmly focused on our spiritual development forever, by subjugating our ego as it may sometimes get developed inadvertently due to a spark of micro light in us by means of our Inthriya Ozhukkam (physical discipline) and Karana Ozhukkam ( Mind Discipline ).

Considering the constraint for a lengthy comment here, I would like to address your all other queries in my separate posting soon here, if His Grace wills for it. So, Now I stop writing further here to write more later on. Hope His Grace will definitely reveal in you before the posting of mine for your great queries!

Compassionately, Anban Durai, All possible, Exalt Him Only! Arut Perum Jyothi ...

Dear Friend,

Firstly, I want to thank for your respect on my comments.

By Nature of God’s grace, we all will be blessed to be a gifted soul but at when it is going to happen is the question / suspense / secret here. The word “we” above refers not only to the souls who are living in human body but also to all other souls who are living in other kind of living bodies.

You might have seen in many spiritual cinemas as “He (NOG) is raising the question from one end and giving the answer from the other end”. It is like that only. We can get / feel wisdom only from the NOG / Almighty. He is the only sole owner for the ‘Power of Intelligence, Power of Brilliance, and Power of knowledge................’ Yes, the one living inside you is living inside me, he make both of us to be benefitted. It is the kind of network working all the time tirelessly and which is far beyond to our knowledge/sense.

Good explanation for the prefix “Mister”. You said it is the mark of respect, Yes I am giving that respect to the NOG who is living / mingled in that soul. Your suggestion is considered as appropriate.

Successes in my life are the result of your (NOG’s) effort but failures are the result of my carelessness / laziness / lack of knowledge. I use to think this always to keep my Ego under the control. One more thing is “Learning from Failure” is the greatest principle which all has to be followed.

I hope you don’t mind to add two more queries on your future postings.

What do you really mean here as human soul and manmade? By this inquiry, I am damn sure you are unlocking the next level towards your spiritual journey/soul experience.